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Gaurdian Forces?!?!?!

Postby GeN » 06/25/2002 @ 02:45 PM

I was wondering if there was gonna be guardian forces in FFXI. I seen the way the fighting is in FFXI and I deucted that there was most likely gonna be no GF's but I as chatting in a room and someone mentioned the GF's in the game look cool, and I began to think that there were gonna be GF's since they are a valuable part of the FF series just as the Chocobo's are...

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Postby Gualen » 06/25/2002 @ 05:16 PM

There are plenty of videos and screenshots out there that highly suggest summons in the game. The one picture I saw was of a person summoning Ifrit, so yeah, most likely.

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Postby Phantom » 06/25/2002 @ 06:04 PM

I do hope they give them a new name for fun Espers, summons, GF's, eidolons. They all kick ass.
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Postby Zedro » 06/26/2002 @ 07:49 AM

quite frankly, i find this topic a little stupid, I know there isn't any confirmed info, but name one FF that didn't have summons, I personally hope they have the FF10 ones, (not the actually aeons) but that style of fighting!
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Postby Uin » 06/26/2002 @ 08:09 AM

Summons haven't been confimed yet, because they don't really fit into online play where everyone needs to be equal. "Lets do 9999 damage to every monster". It'd really annoy ppl. There are still 4 unconfirmed classes, and Summoner might be one of them, but they will not be seen until well into the game. And those shots of Ifrit are really old now. He could have quite easily have been taken out.
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Postby GeN » 06/26/2002 @ 01:22 PM

Zedro wrote:quite frankly, i find this topic a little stupid, I know there isn't any confirmed info, but name one FF that didn't have summons, I personally hope they have the FF10 ones, (not the actually aeons) but that style of fighting!



Care to take that "stupid statement back???? LOL :lol

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Postby Zedro » 06/27/2002 @ 08:21 AM

GeN wrote:
Zedro wrote:quite frankly, i find this topic a little stupid, I know there isn't any confirmed info, but name one FF that didn't have summons, I personally hope they have the FF10 ones, (not the actually aeons) but that style of fighting!



Care to take that "stupid statement back???? LOL :lol


Erm, how was that a stupid statement?
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Postby GeN » 06/27/2002 @ 11:39 AM

Because you assumed that since they were in every Final Fantasy they were gonne be in FFXI and Uin said that they weren't confirmed. And you called my topic stupid so I asked if you cared to take it back

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Postby Ryoko » 06/27/2002 @ 10:28 PM

Summoners arent an absolute but its a real good bet they will be in there. There were a few unconfirmed classes and a few were other magic type classes as well as the pic that was already mentioned of Ifrit.

Also I dont see Summoners being unfair or out of control. There are 2 ways in which they could be balanced. 1)Reduce the amount of damage the summon can cause, and 2)make casting of summons take a decent amount of time.

Now if Summoners do make it in the game then its a sure bet that the cast time will be signifigant for a summon. Regular spells can take a few seconds as is and if the caster gets hit the spell cannot be cast. Also, like with some classes the ability to summon could be limited to only once per day(game time and not real time)as to limit the possibility of them overpowering everything and stealing kills and exp.
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Postby Reaper » 07/01/2002 @ 12:14 PM

Uin wrote:Lets do 9999 damage to every monster

I doubt just cause you can do that much in the rpg's it would work that way, and if it does they would put some sort of restriction on it lke you can only summon once every hour for one 9999 hit
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Postby Mars » 07/18/2002 @ 10:13 AM

i think some kind of quick hit one off attack like the PBs on PSO would fit the best with this style online play,
rather than FFX style chara replacement or knights of the round style mega damage multi hits.

just my two cents :D
but its all guesswork at this stage anyway
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Postby Dragon Rei » 07/18/2002 @ 01:44 PM

Summoning can be easily handled... In fact.. let me walk you through what I see as an ideal way of summoning...

1. First you need something to summon.. the way I figure it base it off of FF8.. You find the summon lets use Shiva since I can spell that off hand.. You find her in an Ice Caver or something.. you beat her and you gain the ability to summon her...

2. The summon, this will initially kick you MP in the balls, and of course will take a minute.. Shiva now shows up but doesnt do some magical spell right off hand and whip out the 9999.. she functions just the same as when you fought her, except now she attacks anything attacking you or whatever you targetted...

3. Now we can't have summons without bad ass moves.. so lets say you can command Shiva to do her Daimond Dust move.. not only does this cost your attack move, but costs you MP in the process, she does it and kicks butt...

4. Now when does Shiva leave? Lets look at this way... you manage her with upkeeps, every so often it costs you MP to keep her, say 10% of the origanl casting price.. so a weak summoner could bring in a summon for 2-3 turns but a stronger one can get them in for a long battle..

5. Since you were able to beat them, others should be able to too.. now how would one calculate the stats of the summoned creature.. Lets base it off your summoning skill, theres a median point where the Shiva you summon is equal to the Shiva you fought.. if your skill is less then your summon of Shiva will be in turn weaker then when you fought her.. but if you better then the median point, then she is stronger being enhanced by you power.. so Shiva in the hands of a vet could possibly whoop Odin in the hands of a weakling...

Really this is one way it could work... the problem here is you can't really have them pop in and out like a spell and still keep the same summoning feeling.. I mean one of the reason summoning was so damn cool (Besides 9999) is the flashy intros and kicking of the arse.. Really, if they truly did put summoning in FFXI, it's going to be quite dumbed down....

Oh and the comment about it being similar to PB's from PSO.. the thing with that is your mag is present at all times and the animation is rather subtle when compared to bringing out such summons as Bahamut.... Not to mention I don't think it's going to be easy whatsoever to summon FFXI.. I really cannot see hundreds of people summoning all over the place.. cuz lets face it.. the majority will want to summon if its there..

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Postby UltraWolf » 07/25/2002 @ 07:51 PM

i'm still disappointed that leviathan wasn't in FF10........
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Postby Zedro » 09/10/2002 @ 03:56 AM

Well, how many FFs do you know that DON'T have any summons, I think it's a bit obvious that there is going to be summons in it, I just wonder how there gonna do, and what are the summons gonna be like?
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wouldnt be a final fantasy without summons

Postby VaMpY.EX » 10/20/2002 @ 02:00 AM

cmon feckin hell it wouldnt be a final fantasy without summons, zedro's right!

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Postby Cobalt Katze » 10/20/2002 @ 08:58 PM

Oh just fucking live with it.
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Postby VaMpY.EX » 10/21/2002 @ 02:05 AM

er live with what...lol

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Re: wouldnt be a final fantasy without summons

Postby Zedro » 10/24/2002 @ 06:23 AM

VaMpY.EX wrote:cmon feckin hell it wouldnt be a final fantasy without summons, zedro's right!


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Postby Mooch » 10/28/2002 @ 03:54 PM

I really hope they do have summons in ffix................o man.....i cant wait till i get to use bahamit

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Postby Mri » 10/30/2002 @ 05:48 PM

summons were cool but in FFX they were way too overpowered so if they were on there then they should be alot weaker
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